FOLKER Heinicke always had a feeling that something about his upbringing just wasn't right.
Being raised in a German home full of wealth and privilege did not dull his notion that something was missing, but it was decades before he learnt the truth: he was the child of a Nazi program to strengthen the German race with Aryan blood.
He and the other children — known as "Lebensborn Kinder", or "source of life" children — were the product of parents chosen for their traits to breed Hitler's idealised blue-eyed, blond-haired Aryan race.
For the past four years, Mr Heinicke and about 40 others raised in the Nazi program have met to support each other. On Saturday they told their stories in public for the first time, swapping tales of aunts who turned out to be mothers, ice-cold adoptive parents and the joy at finding a relative who embraced them as a family member.
"There was always the feeling that something wasn't quite right," said Mr Heinicke, who was stolen from present-day Ukraine by the Nazis.
"It happens when you have no mother, no father, no roots."
Mr Heinicke's parents told him he was adopted but did not reveal the truth about his background. Later in life, he started exploring irregularities in his birth certificate. Eventually he found out that he had passed through a Lebensborn home. He discovered his true identity but is yet to find any of his relatives.
Others like Mr Heinicke were taken as toddlers in lands occupied by the Germans during World War II. They were given to German families to raise.
The Lebensborn program was the mirror opposite of the Nazi's more hideous racial experiments. While millions of Jews and others deemed "undesirable" were slaughtered, these children were carefully selected for their Aryan qualities.
Of the estimated 5000 to 8000 born into Lebensborn homes in Germany, some were raised by their birth mothers but many were given to families of high-ranking SS officers to be raised according to Nazi doctrine.
The group is seeking to correct what it says are historical misconceptions that the Lebensborn program was nothing more than high-class prostitution offering up blue-eyed blondes to SS officers as a means of breeding a perfect race.
"We need to find the courage to speak out in public, to tell our stories," said Violette Wallenborn, whose mother was a Norwegian singer and father was a Nazi choir director.
Previous meetings of the Lebensborn children focused on support. But telling their stories is becoming an aim of members of the association called Lebensspuren, or "tracing life".
Hans-Ullrich Wesch, 64, was born in a Lebensborn home in the former East Germany. Later in life, Mr Wesch's wife suggested his birth parents could still be alive, prompting his first attempt at finding them. But the East German secret police halted his inquiry.
"That was it for me, until the Berlin Wall fell," Mr Wesch said.
He was reunited with his mother in the years after the wall came down.
"I am one heart and one soul with my mother," he said. "She was very, very pleased when she found me. She suffered a lot as well."
FOLKER Heinicke always had a feeling that something about his upbringing just wasn't right.
Being raised in a German home full of wealth and privilege did not dull his notion that something was missing, but it was decades before he learnt the truth: he was the child of a Nazi program to strengthen the German race with Aryan blood.
He and the other children — known as "Lebensborn Kinder", or "source of life" children — were the product of parents chosen for their traits to breed Hitler's idealised blue-eyed, blond-haired Aryan race.
For the past four years, Mr Heinicke and about 40 others raised in the Nazi program have met to support each other. On Saturday they told their stories in public for the first time, swapping tales of aunts who turned out to be mothers, ice-cold adoptive parents and the joy at finding a relative who embraced them as a family member.
"There was always the feeling that something wasn't quite right," said Mr Heinicke, who was stolen from present-day Ukraine by the Nazis.
"It happens when you have no mother, no father, no roots."
Mr Heinicke's parents told him he was adopted but did not reveal the truth about his background. Later in life, he started exploring irregularities in his birth certificate. Eventually he found out that he had passed through a Lebensborn home. He discovered his true identity but is yet to find any of his relatives.
Others like Mr Heinicke were taken as toddlers in lands occupied by the Germans during World War II. They were given to German families to raise.
The Lebensborn program was the mirror opposite of the Nazi's more hideous racial experiments. While millions of Jews and others deemed "undesirable" were slaughtered, these children were carefully selected for their Aryan qualities.
Of the estimated 5000 to 8000 born into Lebensborn homes in Germany, some were raised by their birth mothers but many were given to families of high-ranking SS officers to be raised according to Nazi doctrine.
The group is seeking to correct what it says are historical misconceptions that the Lebensborn program was nothing more than high-class prostitution offering up blue-eyed blondes to SS officers as a means of breeding a perfect race.
"We need to find the courage to speak out in public, to tell our stories," said Violette Wallenborn, whose mother was a Norwegian singer and father was a Nazi choir director.
Previous meetings of the Lebensborn children focused on support. But telling their stories is becoming an aim of members of the association called Lebensspuren, or "tracing life".
Hans-Ullrich Wesch, 64, was born in a Lebensborn home in the former East Germany. Later in life, Mr Wesch's wife suggested his birth parents could still be alive, prompting his first attempt at finding them. But the East German secret police halted his inquiry.
"That was it for me, until the Berlin Wall fell," Mr Wesch said.
He was reunited with his mother in the years after the wall came down.
"I am one heart and one soul with my mother," he said. "She was very, very pleased when she found me. She suffered a lot as well."
Mother Goddess as Kali - The Feminine Force in Indian Art
Article of the Month - August 2000
The worship of a mother goddess as the source of life and fertility has prehistoric roots, but the transformation of that deity into a Great goddess of cosmic powers was achieved with the composition of the Devi Mahatmya (Glory of the goddess), a text of the fifth to sixth century, when worship of the female principle took on dramatic new dimensions. The goddess is not only the mysterious source of life, she is the very soil, all-creating and all consuming.
Kali makes her 'official' debut in the Devi-Mahatmya, where she is said to have emanated from the brow of Goddess Durga (slayer of demons) during one of the battles between the divine and anti-divine forces. Etymologically Durga's name means "Beyond Reach". She is thus an echo of the woman warrior's fierce virginal autonomy. In this context Kali is considered the 'forceful' form of the great goddess Durga.
Kali is represented as a Black woman with four arms; in one hand she has a sword, in another the head of the demon she has slain, with the other two she is encouraging her worshippers. For earrings she has two dead bodies and wears a necklace of skulls ; her only clothing is a girdle made of dead men's hands, and her tongue protrudes from her mouth. Her eyes are red, and her face and breasts are besmeared with blood. She stands with one foot on the thigh, and another on the breast of her husband.
Kali's fierce appearances have been the subject of extensive descriptions in several earlier and modern works. Though her fierce form is filled with awe- inspiring symbols, their real meaning is not what it first appears- they have equivocal significance:
Kali's blackness symbolizes her all-embracing, comprehensive nature, because black is the color in which all other colors merge; black absorbs and dissolves them. 'Just as all colors disappear in black, so all names and forms disappear in her' (Mahanirvana Tantra). Or black is said to represent the total absence of color, again signifying the nature of Kali as ultimate reality. This in Sanskrit is named as nirguna (beyond all quality and form). Either way, Kali's black color symbolizes her transcendence of all form.
A devotee poet says:
"Is Kali, my Divine Mother, of a black complexion?
She appears black because She is viewed from a distance;
but when intimately known She is no longer so.
The sky appears blue at a distance, but look at it close by
and you will find that it has no colour.
The water of the ocean looks blue at a distance,
but when you go near and take it in your hand,
you find that it is colourless."
... Ramakrishna Paramhansa (1836-86)
Kali's nudity has a similar meaning. In many instances she is described as garbed in space or sky clad. In her absolute, primordial nakedness she is free from all covering of illusion. She is Nature (Prakriti in Sanskrit), stripped of 'clothes'. It symbolizes that she is completely beyond name and form, completely beyond the illusory effects of maya (false consciousness). Her nudity is said to represent totally illumined consciousness, unaffected by maya. Kali is the bright fire of truth, which cannot be hidden by the clothes of ignorance. Such truth simply burns them away.
She is full-breasted; her motherhood is a ceaseless creation. Her disheveled hair forms a curtain of illusion, the fabric of space - time which organizes matter out of the chaotic sea of quantum-foam. Her garland of fifty human heads, each representing one of the fifty letters of the Sanskrit alphabet, symbolizes the repository of knowledge and wisdom. She wears a girdle of severed human hands- hands that are the principal instruments of work and so signify the action of karma. Thus the binding effects of this karma have been overcome, severed, as it were, by devotion to Kali. She has blessed the devotee by cutting him free from the cycle of karma. Her white teeth are symbolic of purity (Sans. Sattva), and her lolling tongue which is red dramatically depicts the fact that she consumes all things and denotes the act of tasting or enjoying what society regards as forbidden, i.e. her indiscriminate enjoyment of all the world's "flavors".
Kali's four arms represent the complete circle of creation and destruction, which is contained within her. She represents the inherent creative and destructive rhythms of the cosmos. Her right hands, making the mudras of "fear not" and conferring boons, represent the creative aspect of Kali, while the left hands, holding a bloodied sword and a severed head represent her destructive aspect. The bloodied sword and severed head symbolize the destruction of ignorance and the dawning of knowledge. The sword is the sword of knowledge, that cuts the knots of ignorance and destroys false consciousness (the severed head). Kali opens the gates of freedom with this sword, having cut the eight bonds that bind human beings. Finally her three eyes represent the sun, moon, and fire, with which she is able to observe the three modes of time: past, present and future. This attribute is also the origin of the name Kali, which is the feminine form of 'Kala', the Sanskrit term for Time.
Another symbolic but controversial aspect of Kali is her proximity to the cremation ground:
O Kali, Thou art fond of cremation grounds;
so I have turned my heart into one
That thou, a resident of cremation grounds,
may dance there unceasingly.
O Mother! I have no other fond desire in my heart;
fire of a funeral pyre is burning there;
O Mother! I have preserved the ashes of dead bodies all around
that Thou may come.
O Mother! Keeping Shiva, conqueror of Death, under Thy feet,
Come, dancing to the tune of music;
Prasada waits With his eyes closed
... Ramprasad (1718-75)
Kali's dwelling place, the cremation ground denotes a place where the five elements (Sanskrit: pancha mahabhuta) are dissolved. Kali dwells where dissolution takes place. In terms of devotion and worship, this denotes the dissolving of attachments, anger, lust, and other binding emotions, feelings, and ideas. The heart of the devotee is where this burning takes place, and it is in the heart that Kali dwells. The devotee makes her image in his heart and under her influence burns away all limitations and ignorance in the cremation fires. This inner cremation fire in the heart is the fire of knowledge, (Sanskrit: gyanagni), which Kali bestows.
The image of a recumbent Shiva lying under the feet of Kali represents Shiva as the passive potential of creation and Kali as his Shakti. The generic term Shakti denotes the Universal feminine creative principle and the energizing force behind all male divinity including Shiva. Shakti is known by the general name Devi, from the root 'div', meaning to shine. She is the Shining One, who is given different names in different places and in different appearances, as the symbol of the life-giving powers of the Universe. It is she that powers him. This Shakti is expressed as the i in Shiva's name. Without this i, Shiva becomes Shva, which in Sanskrit means a corpse. Thus suggesting that without his Shakti, Shiva is powerless or inert.
Kali is a particularly appropriate image for conveying the idea of the world as the play of the gods. The spontaneous, effortless, dizzying creativity of the divine reflex is conveyed in her wild appearance. Insofar as kali is identified with the phenomenal world, she presents a picture of that world that underlies its ephemeral and unpredictable nature. In her mad dancing, disheveled hair, and eerie howl there is made present the hint of a world reeling, careening out of control. The world is created and destroyed in Kali's wild dancing, and the truth of redemption lies in man's awareness that he is invited to take part in that dance, to yield to the frenzied beat of the Mother's dance of life and death.
O Kali, my Mother full of Bliss! Enchantress of the almighty Shiva!
In Thy delirious joy Thou dancest, clapping Thy hands together!
Thou art the Mover of all that move, and we are but Thy helpless toys
...Ramakrishna Paramhans
Kali and her attendants dance to rhythms pounded out by Shiva (Lord of destruction) and his animal-headed attendants who dwell in the Himalayas. Associated with chaos and uncontrollable destruction, Kali's own retinue brandishes swords and holds aloft skull cups from which they drink the blood that intoxicates them. Kali, like Shiva, has a third eye, but in all other respects the two are distinguished from one another. In contrast to Shiva's sweet expression, plump body, and ash white complexion, dark kali's emaciated limbs, angular gestures, and fierce grimace convey a wild intensity. Her loose hair, skull garland, and tiger wrap whip around her body as she stomps and claps to the rhythm of the dance.
Many stories describe Kali's dance with Shiva as one that "threatens to destroy the world" by its savage power. Art historian Stella Kramrisch has noted that the image of kali dancing with Shiva follows closely the myth of the demon Daruka. When Shiva asks his wife Parvati to destroy this demon, she enters Shiva's body and transforms herself from the poison that is stored in his throat. She emerges from Shiva as Kali, ferocious in appearance, and with the help of her flesh eating retinue attacks and defeats the demon. Kali however became so intoxicated by the blood lust of battle that her aroused fury and wild hunger threatened to destroy the whole world. She continued her ferocious rampage until Shiva manifested himself as an infant and lay crying in the midst of the corpse-strewn field. Kali, deceived by Shiva's power of illusion, became calm as she suckled the baby. When evening approached, Shiva performed the dance of creation (tandava) to please the goddess. Delighted with the dance, Kali and her attendants joined in.
This terrific and poignant imagery starkly reveals the nature of Kali as the Divine Mother. Ramaprasad expresses his feelings thus:
Behold my Mother playing with Shiva,
lost in an ecstasy of joy!
Drunk with a draught of celestial wine,
She reels, and yet does not fall.
Erect She stands on Shiva's bosom,
and the earth Trembles under Her tread;
She and Her Lord are mad with frenzy,
casting Aside all fear and shame.
... Ramprasad (1718-75)
Kali's human and maternal qualities continue to define the goddess for most of her devotees to this day. In human relationships, the love between mother and child is usually considered the purest and strongest. In the same way, the love between the Mother Goddess and her human children is considered the closest and tenderest relationship with divinity. Accordingly, Kali's devotees form a particularly intimate and loving bond with her. But the devotee never forgets Kali's demonic, frightening aspects. He does not distort Kali's nature and the truths she reveals; he does not refuse to meditate on her terrifying features. He mentions these repeatedly in his songs but is never put off or repelled by them. Kali may be frightening, the mad, forgetful mistress of a world spinning out of control, but she is, after all, the Mother of all. As such, she must be accepted by her children- accepted in wonder and awe, perhaps, but accepted nevertheless. The poet in an intimate and lighter tone addresses the Mother thus:
O Kali! Why dost Thou roam about nude?
Art Thou not ashamed, Mother!
Garb and ornaments Thou hast none;
yet Thou Pridest in being King's daughter.
O Mother! Is it a virtue of Thy family that Thou
Placest thy feet on Thy husband?
Thou art nude; Thy husband is nude; you both roam cremation grounds.
O Mother! We are all ashamed of you; do put on thy garb.
Thou hast cast away Thy necklace of jewels, Mother,
And worn a garland of human heads.
Prasada says, "Mother! Thy fierce beauty has frightened
Thy nude consort.
... Ramaprasad
The soul that worships becomes always a little child: the soul that becomes a child finds God oftenest as mother. In a meditation before the Blessed Sacrament, some pen has written the exquisite assurance: "My child, you need not know much in order to please Me. Only Love Me dearly. Speak to me, as you would talk to your mother, if she had taken you in her arms."
Kali's boon is won when man confronts or accepts her and the realities she dramatically conveys to him. The image of Kali, in a variety of ways, teaches man that pain, sorrow, decay, death, and destruction are not to be overcome or conquered by denying them or explaining them away. Pain and sorrow are woven into the texture of man's life so thoroughly that to deny them is ultimately futile. For man to realize the fullness of his being, for man to exploit his potential as a human being, he must finally accept this dimension of existence. Kali's boon is freedom, the freedom of the child to revel in the moment, and it is won only after confrontation or acceptance of death. To ignore death, to pretend that one is physically immortal, to pretend that one's ego is the center of things, is to provoke Kali's mocking laughter. To confront or accept death, on the contrary, is to realize a mode of being that can delight and revel in the play of the gods. To accept one's mortality is to be able to let go, to be able to sing, dance, and shout. Kali is Mother to her devotees not because she protects them from the way things really are but because she reveals to them their mortality and thus releases them to act fully and freely, releases them from the incredible, binding web of "adult" pretense, practicality, and rationality.
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We should all be tolerant and respectful of our fellow brothers and sisters believes. Keep our eyes open to all the positive energies.
I personaly want to wish all of you well in finding the right path!!!
Namaste ,Salaam ,Shalom, Vanekam, Hail Jah
I absolutely ADORE the Hindu gods. I loved reading about them during my religious studies at school, they are so beautiful and powerful. But I was dismayed to learn that White Westerners cannot convert to Hinduism or worship at a Hindu temple.
This seems terribly unfair and I have cried for days over this. I would love to be a Hindu and worship their gods. I would like to ask all proper Hindus out there, is it true that westerners cannot convert to Hinduism and why is this?
Can I also ask if you Hindus believe in the Gods truly and which ones you particularly like to worship? Who are your favourite Hindu deities?
Perhaps you could also relate to us some stories about your experiences with the Gods and examples of answered prayers by these beautiful, divine beings...................................
- Glacier Glade
Alice....I feel that you are a fake...I've never heard a "Mormon" behave like you! You're trying to convice others that you're sincere but I know better!
- Karma Dogma
avineshwari, please don't say people in the US treat yoga just as an exercise. Apparently you haven't visited a yoga studio in the states. I refer you to the fact that Pramahansa Yogananda helped bring hinduism to mainstream America in the late 1800's. The word yoga itself means union. The union of the physical and the divine. Everyone who starts taking yoga is on their own personal journey, and it may take time for them to appreciate the subtleties of yoga. We're all at different levels on our spiritual journey, but just the fact that someone has decided to start taking yoga means that they have taken, at the very least, a small step toward spirituality.
- nikoeternal.com
Jo-Anne, hinduism accepts Jesus as a divine incarnation. There is even a mantra for Him: Om Jesu Christaya paramatmane purusha avatarya namaha. There is also a wonderful 2 volume book by Pramahansa Yogananda entitled "The Second Coming of Christ: The Resurrection of the Christ Within You". It's available at SelfRealizationFellowship.com
- nikoeternal.com
Wow! I read this article and finally began to understand what was happening to me. Thank you so much!
Thank you also, Mr. European Atheist. If I had the gift of your clarity, eloquence, patience, hope and passion, I would have written the same thing.
I am so tired and pained by fear and hatred and ego. Those of others and that of my own. I am a european-trained psychologist, Eastern, born in the West into an Islamic/Hindu family and educated for seven years at a cathololic convent.
I have not only experienced, but lived the faiths. When the Hindu lifestyle 'chose' me, I confided to the Hindu priest that I am also in love with the Christ. He said, "Well, that makes you an even better Hindu!"
- Jo-Anne Jayadevi Ali- de Vries (vjayanl (at) yahoo.com)
I was led to this article as I have a black cat I have named Kali, and was in search of the meaning and history behind the name. I am very disturbed by some of the venomous opinions in the reviews that accompany it. I am neither christian or Hindu but have respect for all because all have means of being connected to the Source that has been our creation. So there is no this one is right that one is wrong, they are all a matter of personal choice as to what one believes and feels most comfort with. All lead to the same ultimate end. Hatred and division is what is leading our world to its own destruction, and the more fed the larger it will become.
Arizonawind
- arizonawind (arizonawind (at) comcast.net)
It is great that you are trying to learn the meaning of your name, and then looking into other religions etc. You said in your post ''just because we came to this site we are not buddhists..'' or something to that effect. I am a Buddhist, and can I say that Kali Amma has no relationship with Buddhism. Just wanted to inform you that Kali actually doesnt mean goddess of destruction. 'Kal is time'. It is a lovely name. Be proud of it.
- Kit
How blessed the dead are...I'm not really too concerned about history- but I know that India goes back a long long way. How fortunate I am that Kali has spoken directly into me- I simply can't wait to die- but I have to. Suicide is out of the question- it has to come on its own- then as I have heard my cycles of reincarnation are at last no more!!! ParaNirnvana...
- Jozen-Bo
I know...I spelled ParaNirvana wrong- Essence is more important than formalities- who can disagree...I find all subject matter relating to Kali of interest- so long as it does not foolishly mock her as something she is not- and what she is is beyond description and understanding- she is the mystery of all women, forever mysterious and beyond our fathom. Her voice is infinite and eternal- a sychronization of every women that ever was, is, and will be...all speaking as one voice- it is impossible to describe how powerful her voice alone is- after hearing it everything for me has changed- I now have not the slightest doubt whatsoever about the existence of Gods and Goddesses- and I know as I have in death the ultimate freedom and bliss- every day that I live here is difficult- once one tastes that nectar of immortaliy the fruits of the mortal realm don't taste as they did before. I guess I could go on, but why...One last thing- Kali...I will never put you in a box and try to define you!!!
- Jozen-Bo
It's very sad when mostly white people read something they don't understand, and can't get the concept of a balance world. Christian, Islam, even
Jews there not speak of death. Quite frankly most people fear death. I'm very proud Hindu, whom has grown up in America and i feel sorry for people like the Americans who are lost in their materialistic soulless what they believe to be their world. Your type of people steal our yoga and turn it into something it isn't, an excerise. I'm pretty sure you buy from this website because you think it's pretty and have no idea what your putting in your house. You people there have the nerve to criticize; when all your pegan ancesters converted by the rule of Roman Emperor Constantine. Those British I would insult you stealers of all, but my people didn't kill millions of innocent people for the 'hell' of it. Furthermore keep you close minded opinions to yourselves. We have thousands of book, it's like karma everything leads to another for a purpose. I'm to late in saying my views but better late than never. My opinion, if your so sacred and offended by this article, don't buy our beliefs to decorate your home. Jai Maha Kali Maa.
Avineshwari
- avineshwari (maharaj57 (at) msn.com)
Clearly you are a white supremacist. Scotland's history and culture is NOT older than India's. Without India, there would be no Caucasians, so stop trying to re-write history!
- WhiteisnotSupreme
Sally Morgan is deluded. Scotland's history is not older than India's! So her post makes no sense unless you are a white supremacist pagan!
- WhiteisnotRight
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with the atheist (Mandy's) post. But, I do believe in Jesus Christ, his diety, his humanity, his sinless life, his physical resurrection, and his imminent return.
I deeply believe what I believe. I've studied other religions, and I see similarities and differences. I don't proselytize because it's not my gift. But, I don't deny the power of Christ either.
Since I haven't created any human, I don't think I'm qualified to say who will go to heaven or hell. Although I believe in both places. Instead of focusing on who is going to heaven or hell, I try to focus on following the example of my Lord Jesus.
I also agree with the woman who said that (western) Christianity is very patriarchal. Women are rarely portrayed as strong leaders. I agree that Mary was probably a force of nature--she was the mother of God after all.
I agree that people do a lot of hateful thing s in the name of violence--this includes all religions not just Christianity.
What if we all lived by the tenants we say we believe in? Then the world would be a respectful place.
As for people who call themselves Christians but bash, abuse, hurt and insult people who live or believe differently than they do, what happened to "love your enemies?" what happened to "pray for those who despitefully use you?" what happened to turn the other cheek?
"Christians" who talk about hellfire and brimstone are stuck in the Old Testament, are legalistic, and cannot reconcile the complexities of a New Testament Christ who is both Just and Loving.
- IBelieveinJesus
It seems to me that in your religion, the good people do, and how moral a life one leads, MATTERS NOT if they don't believe in YOUR GOD.
WHY, I ask, should people even bother being good to each other if all they get in the end is agony jsut because they don't believe? And yet, people who don't believe in your god are among the most compassionate, most moral (YES), and most loving people I've had the pleasure of meeting. Life may not be fair, but if your god is supposed to be, he should worry more about our actions than whether people believe in him or not.
If this were taking place in a working environment, you would be thought of as harassing people. And believe me, that would not sit well with many employers. You are entitled to your opinions and beliefs, Douglas. EVERYONE IS. The problem is that of hellfire and suffering for those who don't believe, REGARDLESS of whether they have been good people or not.
- EA
YOU haven't gone after us for criticizing you? What do you call screaming things like "You'll BURN HELL for your disbelief/Satanic ways/your sinful ways" or "You have been blinded by Satan!" at others? Gentle persuastion? Concern?
The last one may be, but insulting people isn't the best way to make them listen, surely you know that. If you really want to see people take you seriously and possibly convert, act civil. Share information about your religion, LISTEN to THEIR SIDE, and either agree or disagree. If you can't handle that people won't convert, too bad.
I haven't screamed at you about Kali, Zeus, or the Morrighan coming after you for your "insolence." The truth is, THEY DON'T CARE. They are secure enough that they don't feel the need to bully everyone and anyone into following them.
If what poeple believe and do doesn't endanger my rights in any way that can be reached LOGICALLY, there's no sense in complaining. You wanna know how i practice tolerance? I KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT. That's right. I IGNORE PEOPLE, and I STAY QUIET, because i wouldn't like it if they bothered me. Why should I pester them?
By the way, the only reason it seems God's existence has been proven is because so many people believe in him and attribute all manner of miracles and other occurences to him. Which is pretty much par for people of other faiths. It has not been proven if the diety in question is yours, or one of mine, or someone else's. Maybe it doesn't matter anyway.
With that, i'm going to leave this comments section alone. Matter of fact, I shouldn't ahve even bothered to address thsoe remarks, because I get the same song and dance I've heard ten million times before.
"Goodness by threat of damnation and hope of salvation is no nobility." - from a wise friend of mine
- EA
"There is no God where I am" - Hamsa, beautiful words from a beautiful text my friend, and a big glorious "93" to you! Love is the Law, Love under Will.
- Frater Lilith
Kali and her ancestry go back far further than India. She can be traced back to the glens and majestic mountains of Scotland, and the pagan worship of the holy goddess Scotia, whose Pict devotees called her Callieach. A dark, bloodthirsty sorceress and goddess of battle and the slain. Kali's roots go back to the land of Scotland and it's green earth and blue skies. To the holy land of thistle and heather and haggis, the holy crone goddess's favourite food.
And in the land of Scots, the holy body of the mother-goddess and provider, you can find the great and eternal secret that will make YOU also divine and one with her. You will discover how the Holy Goddess Callieach, the original Kali Ma, the dark mother of Scotland, will grant you land and a title, wordly riches and glory!
She will make the blood of the noblest aristocrat run through your peasant veins and make you SOMEBODY. Somebody special and different from all others. Forget Kali, forget India, embrace Scotland and Callieach, embrace Caledonian power and status!
Do you desire kinship with the all-powerful Callieach? Do you desire to be hers forever and one with the beautiful land of Scots and it's fiery, independant Celtic spirit? Do you desire that the blood-soaked soils of ancient Scotland should be yours as your birthright and your sons birthrights, and theirs?
If the answer to that question is YES, PLEASE LADY, then let me show you how....................................................
CLICK ON THE FOLLOWING LINK AND READ WELL, YOU WILL HAVE YOUR DIVINE ANSWER!
'There is NO GOD where I AM'. Can Christ be the only son of God when Sarah was fecundated by God to Sarai and gave birth? No. Jesus only exists as a pentagram formula of IHShVH. Useful as 5 but not unity nor Nothing. Maybe there is No God where I is existant as formless, black as Kala or 'Self without attributes'.
45={NOT,I AM,NO GOD,BLACK,SPAC-}
so Allah's the Atheist (Bagh I Muattar,666) Sanskrit like English can be learnt so when those capable praise Kali Durga in puja (worship) know Her as Goddess of Time. Shiva has a triple Shakti Goddess of Lalita, Jvalamuhki and Kali which is why He dances with Kali. If Kali is Time and Manifestation, Shiva is figured as a corpse or Witness of this Manifestation. Tantra is a Hindu practical art of being a baby in the arms of 93={Mother, Time} and is magick.
Aum Shivaya! Spanish English Sanskrit.
- HamSa unwrapping the turban
Polytheism is belief in, or worship of, multiple gods or divinities. The belief in many gods does not preclude the belief in an all- powerful all-knowing supreme being.
In polytheistic belief systems, gods are conceived as complex personages of greater or lesser status, with individual skills, needs, desires and stories. Usually such gods are not omnipotent or omniscient; rather, they are often portrayed as similar to humans in their personality traits, but with additional individual powers, abilities, knowledge or perceptions.
In a polytheistic pantheon, the gods may have multiple names, each with its own significance in specific roles, and have dominion or authority over specified areas of life and the cosmos. Thus a god may be the god of music (Apollo) or herding, the god of a particular food (Dionysus, Ceres) or emotion (Aphrodite), have a particular role in the god-hierarchy (Zeus, Loki), or be the "patron god" of a geographical or cosmological phenomenon, or a region, town, stream or family. In some polytheistic beliefs, such as the Greek or Norse pantheons, gods have complex social arrangements. For example, they have friends, allies, spouses, lovers and enemies, they experience human emotions such as jealousy, whimsy or uncontrolled rage, may practise infidelity or be punished, and can be born or die.
Polytheistic views should be carefully distinguished from religions such as Smarta Hinduism, which present multiple divinities as different aspects of the same God. Rather than being polytheistic, Smarta Hinduism is a form of inclusive monotheism, where many deities are viewed as just different names for the single monotheistic God, and thus provide many paths to the same ultimate truth. Hindu writers are often at pains to clarify this point to practitioners.
Most pre-Christian cultures of Europe, and indeed many cultures around the world, have been and in some cases remain polytheistic, and polytheism is reviving in popularity in the West, often accompanied by a return to old texts and recreation of the rituals and way of life they describe. Present-day polytheistic religions include revivalist Hellenic polytheism, Shinto, some forms of Wicca, and
No matter how we call them gypsy is still gypsy. Nobody cares about how we do. It s not important that we are peóple like other people... it`s always the same old story.... The nais never gonna change. And as I can see there is no different world for my kids. I see that gypsy life in future will become more hard and harder.... So send your kids to scholl and let them do their stuff...
We are still gypsys no matter what we work, Keep on doing our tradiotions....
There is this part in life. It's about beauty and death and what the germans did. They killed us because they feared our beauty, our skin, our blood and Asian roots, and because the nasty ones were sheep and followed the 'Jesus on the cross thing' that symbolises a picture of death they hurt us bad..... why do you listen to this rubbish? Come back to the beautifil people we are made of, and dance and sing and laugh without restrictions and be strong and just know who you are at heart...a beautiful Romani.
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Hun mol tschawa hosge butsche gate ?? Heu go karel Druschlengo ziro,baresgro und Balstuno Lab
Passe ma pre Dud hi Dui Laba ok und Balstuno lab hi ga diro lab ha dud dire menschi karen , sondern gowa hi go Lab ha o Gadje dud karen heiwal?
Und Baresgro hi gola Basch sinte heiwal?
UNd Druschlengo Ziro gowa his früher gei maranle o menschi an o .. Heiwe.
Aber ma Puke gane gate ab gatschkenes halauter wri okay?
Du jalo buko heu hal dschin du buda ga romnes weil du lernral les eh bos von dire mala du hal jeg lolo bedu und jake jales ha i jali madrela du JALO GADJU
da dschine du noch jek kobi kei dre und übersezewe tschumuni bale freke und wel tut kek bacht puta an tu zelu jipen und kowa heu tu prasewe atschela tuke du dele bujedinu ketari